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Re: Posted Pay Ranges & Government Jobs

Subject: Re: Posted Pay Ranges & Government Jobs
From: "Suzette Leeming" <suzette -dot- leeming -at- sympatico -dot- ca>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:10:56 -0500


I absolutely agree with what you're saying and with the math, however..... I was looking at it from the point of view of an interviewer and what they're prepared to pay and why. When there is a pay range, the thinking is that with the inability to advance financially in the position, they risk losing an employee after a year or two.

One should ask about different levels or grades within a pay range and the requirements for each. My experience with government work though, has been there is an extreme reluctance to hire people above the mid-point. I'm not saying their thinking is right or anything, just the way it is.

BTW - My salary was recently unfrozen after 4 years because I was deemed to be "over market value". I was hired during the boom, and techwriters in this area are working for far less these days. I had no objection to being "frozen" - it was (and still is) more than I would get at another company. Only contracting would pay me more.

Suzette

Eric Dunn said:


What's so horrible about a salary freeze? Anyone who feels happier with
annual raises (but always earning below their maximum potential) than they
are being comfortable knowing they're making the most possible failed
basic mathematics and needs their head examined.

If there's a range posted, I'd would think that it would be perfectly
acceptable to ask the interviewer what the range represents (skill and
qualification wise) and if you consider yourself fully qualified for top
spot have them rationalise to you why they shouldn't be paying you top
dollar. The range may be linked to seniority or may cover different levels
of the position. If that's the case you may not have much negotiating
leverage when being hired.

....

If you're happy being paid mid-range and getting raises and are fully
aware that you are losing tens of thousands each year for the joy of those
raises you're delusional. What good is a $5,000 dollar raise if you know
that others made $10,000 more than you last year and will make $5,000 more
than you this year and 2 or 3 thousand more than you the year after that?
But the reality is that the rate at which you "catch up" (if ever) will be
far lower than that example (more like 1-2% a year).



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