RE: Offer Letter

["Sarah Bouchier" <Sarah -dot- Bouchier -at- exony -dot- com>]

I've had some success with renegotiating post-interview.

I was in the very fortunate position of having received a really good
salary offer from potential employer A.  The only problem was that I
didn't want to work for them; I'd 'clicked' well with the interviewer
from potential employer B, who would be my direct boss.  But their
original job ad had specified a salary 'up to' 10K less than A, and they
hadn't actually offered me the job...

There was only one sane thing to do in that situation, and I didn't do
it.  Instead, I contacted the recruiter and explained my position,
without mentioning the actual figures involved because, as I explained,
I didn't want to get into a salary 'auction' which would just lead to
bad feeling all round.  In return, she told me that I was the only
candidate being considered at B and went off to do some negotiating for
me.

I'm now working at B, for a salary 7K more than their initial 'maximum'.
So it can be done.  But it's possibly better to try it when you've got a
backup plan in case it goes wrong :)

----------------------------------------- 
Sarah Bouchier 
Technical Author 

exony 


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>[mailto:techwr-l-bounces+sarah -dot- bouchier=exony -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com]
On
>Behalf Of Poshedly, Ken
>Sent: 08 January 2007 13:26
>To: Gene Kim-Eng; vrfour -at- verizon -dot- net; techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Subject: RE: Offer Letter
>
>Gene,
>
>I assume that your reply is specific to the apparently fictional
>government job described by James.
>
>But how to handle non-gov situations and those where budgets are not so
>carved-in-stone?
>
>From what I've gleaned over the years:
>
>* Don't bring up a possible salary figure DURING the interview process
>because you'll immediately be dumped if your expectation is beyond what
>the hiring manager *wants* to pay with no consideration given to your
>non-financial advantages (very desirable skill set, consistently good
>accomplishments at previous jobs, impeccable references, etc.).
>
>* Don't try to negotiate a possible salary figure AFTER the interview
>process because the hiring manager already has determined what you'll
be
>paid and your resistance is futile (again, even with your very
desirable
>skill set, consistently good accomplishments at previous jobs,
>impeccable references, etc.).
>
>Is one or the other more successful in your option? I know that both
>approaches are used, but I just thought I'd ask.
>
>Life's a gamble.
>
>-- Ken in Atlanta
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: techwr-l-bounces+poshedlyk=polysius -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>[mailto:techwr-l-bounces+poshedlyk=polysius -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com] On
>Behalf Of Gene Kim-Eng
>Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:50 PM
>To: vrfour -at- verizon -dot- net; techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Subject: Re: Offer Letter
>
>Well, you could try recontacting whoever you interviewed with to
>determine if there is an opportunity to revisit their classification of
>your grade compared to your actual experience.  However, my guess is
>that in the case you postulate it will turn out they know perfectly
well
>that your actual experience would make you a TW2,
>3 or 4 but you got the TW1 offer because that's all the budget for the
>position will cover.
>
>Gene Kim-Eng
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Barrow" <vrfour -at- verizon -dot- net>
>
>> What happens if the compensation offered is at the TW 1 level?  Do
you
>
>> call the Department of Redundancy?  Do you draft a counter-offer that
>> mentions the disparity between experience and compensation?
>>
>> I'm fairly certain that this wouldn't happen since we're talking
about
>
>> a government position, but what if...?
>
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