Re: Employment question

["heidi arnold" <heidi -dot- w -dot- arnold -at- gmail -dot- com>]

i see that my mention of the political right wasn't necessary.  i
apologize.  in demographic terms, high concentrations of either
right-leaning or left-leaning opinion can be overwhelming at times, as can
the sweeping assumption that the auditors agree with the speaker.  in future
i will omit such politically biased comments from this particular chatlist.
thanks for pointing this out.  sorry sorry.

h

On 6/26/07, Chris Vickery <cvickery -at- arenasolutions -dot- com> wrote:
>
> Just to be clear, I didn't mean anyone on the Tech-Wrl list "refuses
> to recognize the fact that your political opinions should be kept to
> yourself"--Just blathering about society in general.
>
> Chris
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:08 AM
> To: richard -dot- melanson -at- us -dot- tel -dot- com; admin -at- techwr-l -dot- com;
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> Subject: RE: Employment question
>
> "What are you TechWriters against the world. If you cannot accept
> someone with a different political view who you openly acknowledge has
> ALL it takes to do the job, how do you accept edits, constructive
> criticisms, suggestions, or any other concept that you may disagree
> with."
>
> That view seems narrow to me. I think the key to the problem is not that
> the candidate had conflicting views, but that he expressed them so
> vociferously. I think that the cultural fit of a candidate is a big
> consideration, and it seems that this candidate does not fit, not
> because he holds contrary viewpoints to the group, but because of his
> manner.
>
> Maybe I'm reading too much into it. If it's a yes/no question of "is it
> ethical to exclude a candidate for their political views?" the answer is
> definitely no. If the question is "Is it ethical to exclude a candidate
> because their manner may disrupt the working environment?" then the
> answer is yes.
>
> Also, just to go off on a tangent here, there does seem to be a refusal
> to recognize the fact that your political opinions should be kept to
> yourself, especially when you are unaware of the opinions of your
> listener. Maybe it's a result of the popularity of talk radio, and the
> polarizing political climate in which we in America live. Many people
> don't have the politeness filters they used to--talking loudly on their
> cellphones about private issues in public places, blathering during a
> movie...but I digress.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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> On Behalf Of richard -dot- melanson -at- us -dot- tel -dot- com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:27 AM
> To: admin -at- techwr-l -dot- com; techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> Subject: RE: Employment question
>
> I find this question distasteful and I feel posting it insults the
> people of TechWR-L. I do not post very often but I feel the need to
> comment on this.
>
> What are you TechWriters against the world. If you cannot accept someone
> with a different political view who you openly acknowledge has ALL it
> takes to do the job, how do you accept edits, constructive criticisms,
> suggestions, or any other concept that you may disagree with.
>
> Diversity is what makes the planet spin, it is what makes the US great.
> Diversity makes the living experience wonderful. I want to meet new
> people with different ideas, who are of different colors, who are of
> different ethnic backgrounds, who have different ideals, who have
> different morals, who have different sexual concepts, who have different
> religious concepts, and who can introduce me to a new concept or idea
> and make me better for meeting them. Just reading that someone or a
> group of someones is considering not hiring a person because of worries
> about political views I find disgusting.
>
> Hire this person and what did the commercial say, "Make this world a
> better place" and make yourself better people.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of TECHWR-L Administrator
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:42 PM
> To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> Subject: FWD: Employment question
>
>
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> We are a five person documentation group at a mid-sized company. I
> started here as a lone writer eight years back. The team grew to its
> current size, over the years as the need arose. Though I have the final
> say in the selection of a new writer, the team members are involved in
> the screening and interviewing process, and the final decision is a
> consensus.
>
> We are a pretty close-knit team, and fit in together well. Though each
> writer works on individual books and products, the rest of the team
> pitches in whenever necessary, like in a crunch at release time or when
> some one needs time-off with a scheduled release coming up. Our regular
> table in the cafeteria is called the Doc Table where people stop by to
> chat us up. Of course, we do enjoy our private jokes about the rest of
> the company... :-)
>
> Now we are in need of another writer and have been going through a round
>
> of interviewing. Been a bit frustrating till we found the ideal
> candidate. Articulate, good language skills, in-depth knowledge in our
> technologies, friendly nature... The interviewing team were exchanging
> gratified smiles till we took the candidate for lunch.
>
> The contrast in views couldn't have been any greater. And the person was
>
> not the least bit reluctant to express them either. Like it was a given
> that no one could ever disagree with those opinions. (Did I tell you our
>
> team all fall into the same side of the political spectrum?) The visible
>
> strain the team was under to keep the situation from sliding to an Al
> Franken date with Ann Coulter would have made me smile if I was not
> under the same strain.
>
> The question is, would it be ethical to deny employment to a person
> (otherwise eminently qualified) based on his/her political views, though
>
> the real reason is never mentioned? On the other hand, is a new person
> (however well qualified) worth the possible disruption (97% possibility)
>
> to the sense of good will in the team?
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