Re: Editing PDFs

["Henry J. Wicko II" <henry -dot- wicko -at- gmail -dot- com>]

So, does anyone have recommendations on looking for training on
> Illustrator and Photoshop?

Here is a PS/Ill training site.

http://www.kelbytraining.com/seminars.html

All these guys are top notch and Bert Monroy is a legend.  How he
makes it look so easy is beyond me.

Henry

On 10/15/07, Sam Beard <sbeard -at- oico -dot- com> wrote:
> Hello Seb, Richard, Fred, and Any Others,
>
>
>
>   Thanks much for responding to my request for information! It's much
> appreciated!
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>
>
>   Now, for some answers to some of the questions: The reason I asked
> about editing PDFs is mostly to wonder why I'm getting the message about
> not being able to edit the PDF if the (apparent) font used on it is
> Arial Narrow or even Arial, since both are installed on my system. I'm
> THINKING that there may be another font used somewhere in the typical
> CAD drawing rectangle containing the typical drafting identification
> information (i.e., draftsman, drawing number, drawing name, company
> name, etc.). However, I've not been able to confirm this as of yet. The
> sort of change I'm talking about making is VERY minor changes to the
> text: in this case, adding information about one of the parts listed on
> the drawing to say that on newer units, these three O-rings identified
> here are replaced with a one-piece gasket and include the new part
> number. I realize that this information would eventually have to be
> included on the drawings anyway (for numerous reasons), but I wanted to
> be able to change them when I needed the drawings versus causing the
> draftsperson to drop what they were doing just to make a small change
> like that, since I really need to get these drawings into the manual as
> soon as I can for deadline. I made this very change to one of the
> drawings without issue, but the others are not allowing me to do so.
>
>
>
>   As far as using Photoshop or Illustrator to make these changes, that
> would be great except I don't know anything, really, about using either
> one of these applications! Not long ago, I asked for help and
> information in finding a good resource for training in these
> applications, but got VERY little response. So, even taking into
> consideration the comments about using Illustrator versus Photoshop
> (which I'm aware of from previous discussions on the list that Photoshop
> does MUCH better with things like color shifts and the like for photos
> (hence the name) than with line art) and would use Illustrator if I knew
> how! So, does anyone have recommendations on looking for training on
> Illustrator and Photoshop? I googled and came up with SOME information
> on Photoshop training, but it doesn't provide any sort of first-hand
> information from folks that might've taken said training. I plan on
> purchasing a good book on Photoshop, at least, and trying to learn from
> it. But, I'd still like a good class, if possible. I'm going to look at
> one of the local universities, as well. I checked NAPP's Web site, but
> there's not much there unless you're a member. I found some listed in
> California, but those aren't an option. My company will pay for my
> training for a relatively local class, but not to go out-of-state like
> that!
>
>
>
> So, thanks again to those that responded! I file a lot of information
> gleaned from this list in folders on my computer for future referencing!
> Techwr-l is a great resource with great people on it!
>
>
>
> Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
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> Technical Writer
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> From: Seb [mailto:techwritersblock -at- gmail -dot- com]
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:34 PM
> To: Sam Beard; brianlindgren -at- aol -dot- com
> Cc: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> Subject: Re: Editing PDFs
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> A more elegant solution would to be to bring the PDF into Adobe
> Illustrator. Illustrator can edit and save PDFs natively, so there is no
> need to convert the file to a jpg or other lossy image using Photoshop.
>
> Do you know what program the drafter is using to create the file? Is he
> embedding the fonts into the PDF? Has the drafter tried making the text
> change himself using the original file?
>
> Seb
>
> On 10/12/07, brianlindgren -at- aol -dot- com <brianlindgren -at- aol -dot- com > wrote:
>
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> I don't know if this will be a viable solution, but if you have
> PhotoSSshop you can open the page from the PDF in PhotoShop,?make any
> necessary edits there,?save it as a PDF and re-import the page.
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> If the graphic is a full page, you also have the option to save it as a
> JPG from Acrobat, edit it in PhotoShop (or any other graphics package),
> then bring back the edited JPG into your PDF.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Beard <sbeard -at- oico -dot- com>
> To: TECHWR-L <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
> Sent: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:25 pm
> Subject: Editing PDFs
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> All,
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>   I'm on WinXP with Acrobat 8.
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>
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>   I'm trying to slightly edit some text on PDF drawings and I keep
> running into problems. From what I've gathered (and, indeed, it worked
> on one drawing), if you have the fonts used in a document on your
> system, you should be able to lightly edit a PDF. I need to change a bit
> of text. The font used was Arial Narrow, which is on my system. I
> couldn't change it. The drafter changed it to Arial, which is also on my
> system, but I still can't edit it. When I try, I get the message that
> one or more fonts used in it are not on my system. I need to check with
> the drafter to see if there are other fonts used besides that, which
> aren't on my system, which might be the case. However, there are a LOT
> of fonts on my system, so I'm not sure about that. By the by, he did say
> it was TT Arial, which is what I have. Is there something I'm missing?
> Why did it work on one of the drawings but not on the others? Would it
> work if I delete all of the standard drafting stuff, such as the box
> with that includes the drafter's name, drawing name, and all that stuff
> on the bottom right corner? (I'm about to try that right now, just to
> see.)
>
>
>
> Thanks much in advance!
>
>
>
> Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
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