RE: Salutation Question: Hi Fred, or Hi, Fred ?

Subject: RE: Salutation Question: Hi Fred, or Hi, Fred ?
From: "Pinkham, Jim" <Jim -dot- Pinkham -at- voith -dot- com>
To: "Greg Holmes" <greg -dot- holmes -at- gmail -dot- com>, "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:35:08 -0600

I'm siding with Fred on this one. "Hi" is not parallel to the three
modifiers. "Hi" is an interjection. See:
http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/interjections.htm.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Salutation Question: Hi Fred, or Hi, Fred ?

Hi Fred,

Fred Ridder wrote:

>The "Hi" and "Hello" salutations are *not* parallel to the "Dear"
>constructions.

But in the usage that we are talking about, they are
*precisely* parallel to the "Dear" constructions. Because they *are* in
fact being used as the salutation :)

Dear Joe,

Esteemed colleague,

Most excellent Theophilus,

Hi Bob,


>"Hi" and "Hello" are each a short message directly addressed to
>someone, which is why they are subject to the "direct address"
>punctuation rule.

They're just an informal word substituted for "dear".

As for *why* folks (including me) are writing like that ...
I think it's from all that "authenticity" that actually started in the
60s. We may be a hundred times as mendacious about everything that
actually matters (wedding vows, etc.) but we'll be darned if we're going
to pretend that our colleagues are "dear" to us ;)

I'm as guilty as anybody else ... I always felt kind of silly writing
"dear" in paper letters to people who weren't dear to me. But at least
I had the weight of tradition behind me. In email, we have no such
weight of tradition, so off goes the "dear".


Yours sincerely,

Greg Holmes
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