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Date:
22 Jul 2008 17:21:37 -0000
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. RE: e-fax versus efax (Daniel Frankham)
> 2. Re: Workplace issues (Cardimon, Craig)
> 3. Re: Workplace issues (Pro TechWriter)
> 4. Re: Workplace issues (Keith Hood)
> 5. Re: Workplace issues (Ned Bedinger)
> 6. Re: Workplace issues (Gene Kim-Eng)
> 7. Setting up acronyms (jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net)
> 8. Image repository (john -at- garisons -dot- com)
> 9. Re: Setting up acronyms (cupton -at- syclone -dot- net)
> 10. Re: Setting up acronyms (jlshaeffer -at- aol -dot- com)
> 11. RE: Setting up acronyms (Dan Goldstein)
> 12. Re: Image repository (Laura Praderio Lynn)
> 13. RE: Workplace issues (Bonnie Granat)
> 14. RE: Setting up acronyms (Bonnie Granat)
> 15. Re: Setting up acronyms (Janet Swisher)
> 16. RE: Workplace issues (was RE: side-effect of tabbed browsing
> (McLauchlan, Kevin)
> 17. RE: Setting up acronyms (Bonnie Granat)
> 18. Re: Image repository (Keith Hood)
> 19. Re: Workplace issues (quills -at- airmail -dot- net)
> 20. RE: Setting up acronyms (Karen Murri)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:19:13 +0930
> From: "Daniel Frankham" <daniel -dot- frankham -at- saabsystems -dot- com -dot- au>
>Subject: RE: e-fax versus efax
>To: "Laura Praderio Lynn" <lpraderio -at- alpineclimbs -dot- com>,
> <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID:
> <4637035C470ECA4E8F1C5619B4C3F45F013B8676 -at- OXYGEN -dot- saabsystems -dot- com -dot- au>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Laura,
>
>I haven't been following these court cases, but I presume they are to do
>with trademarks rather than copyright, as words are not subject to
>copyright.
>
>See, e.g. http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ34.html
>
>--
>Daniel Frankham
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laura Praderio Lynn
> > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 6:23 AM
> > To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> > Subject: e-fax versus efax
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > there seem to be a number of court cases pending over the
> > copyright of eFax and some other variations of the word.
> >
> > we use e-fax, which follows the e-prefix trend; courts don't
> > seem to touch this hyphenated variation as with e-mail.
> >
> > but email is in common use, so, does anyone have any
> > copyright info on efax for generic use? i know efax is a
> > product developed by casus but wanted to know about generic use.
> >
> > i have already done a solid search on the Internet and
> > browsed through the eFax court basics.
> >
> > cheers,
> > laura
> >
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:33:26 -0400
> From: "Cardimon, Craig" <ccardimon -at- M-S-G -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Workplace issues
>To: "Keith Hood" <klhra -at- yahoo -dot- com>
>Cc: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Message-ID: <19C7D9BC73C7914BAB5D21A6C05F2AD7FF640B -at- Delmar2 -dot- m-s-g -dot- com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> > I take my personal laptop to work with me. For doing anything for the
> > company, I use the company laptop that it hardwired to their net. For
> > doing anything personal, even something as mild as checking my email,
>I
> > use my laptop, which has a Sprint wireless modem. So if I connect to
>the
> > Internet from my personal laptop, that goes through the same structure
>as
> > my cell phone uses and does not involve company assets in any way. So
>even
> > if I do accidentally get something nasty installed on my laptop,
>there's
> > no way to pass it to the company.
>
>Sadly, this does involve company assets. This involves company time.
>Companies are usually fairly flexible about this, but it should still be
>acknowledged. I am not a manager but I know how they think. From 8 - 5
>or whenever, you're on company time. There was a discussion on another
>list about this. People wanted to do creative writing -- hopefully on
>their lunch hour -- and didn't know how to do this without involving
>company assets. The consensus seemed to be to use a USB stick. Okay,
>fine. Then a real live manager chimed in, saying that, if you do
>anything but your job on company time, then -- technically speaking --
>you are stealing from him, and that's called theft. I'm just saying.
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:35:24 -0500
> From: "Pro TechWriter" <pro -dot- techwriter -at- gmail -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Workplace issues
>To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
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>Umm, "lunch break"? I don't get paid for that, do you?
>
>PT
>
>On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Cardimon, Craig <ccardimon -at- m-s-g -dot- com>
>wrote:
>
> > > I take my personal laptop to work with me. For doing anything for the
> > > company, I use the company laptop that it hardwired to their net. For
> > > doing anything personal, even something as mild as checking my email,
> > I
> > > use my laptop, which has a Sprint wireless modem. So if I connect to
> > the
> > > Internet from my personal laptop, that goes through the same structure
> > as
> > > my cell phone uses and does not involve company assets in any way. So
> > even
> > > if I do accidentally get something nasty installed on my laptop,
> > there's
> > > no way to pass it to the company.
> >
> > Sadly, this does involve company assets. This involves company time.
> > Companies are usually fairly flexible about this, but it should still be
> > acknowledged. I am not a manager but I know how they think. From 8 - 5
> > or whenever, you're on company time. There was a discussion on another
> > list about this. People wanted to do creative writing -- hopefully on
> > their lunch hour -- and didn't know how to do this without involving
> > company assets. The consensus seemed to be to use a USB stick. Okay,
> > fine. Then a real live manager chimed in, saying that, if you do
> > anything but your job on company time, then -- technically speaking --
> > you are stealing from him, and that's called theft. I'm just saying.
> >
> >
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>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:04:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Keith Hood <klhra -at- yahoo -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Workplace issues
>To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Message-ID: <774939 -dot- 78465 -dot- qm -at- web36304 -dot- mail -dot- mud -dot- yahoo -dot- com>
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>
>If you got the impression that I'm doing personal business of some kind on company time, that's not the case. But my definition of company time, and your definition, and the company's definition, may be different. I work it out.
>
>The only times I do anything like check my email or write out something for my own use is outside work hours. I may do that on my lunch break or before or after normal hours. My employer gets exactly what he is legally entitled to from me: 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week. He even gets what I think he's morally entitled to - when I agree to get things done by a deadline, I work more than 8/40 if that's what it takes to finish on time. I'm legally entitled to a certain amount of break time during the day, and I figure it's my business alone if I choose to take that break checking my progress on ebay instead going outside to smoke. If I do something personal between sunup and sundown while I'm physically located inside his building, that never interferes in any way with either the amount of time I spend on his concerns or the quality of the work I do for him. If I'm here sitting at this desk 9 hours a day and 1 hour of that is mine, he is not being robbed in
> any way.
>
>In my opinion I have a really simple rule about situations like this: I won't work for someone who has a bug up his *** about the hours I work. That doesn't mean I refuse to conform to company schedules. If the boss insists that I must be at my desk by 8 AM, I'm there. If he insists I can't leave before 5, I stay. But even so, I won't put up with the kind of employer who tries to turn me into a robot who does nothing but grind a keyboard all day long.
>
>In the past, more than once I've taken a job and then found out the employer insists that every minute I spend inside the building must be spent on company matters. I mean, I've found bosses who would break up conversations in the halls and would cruise the cube farm looking for people who were in somebody else's cube talking about things not related to work. I won't work in such places. If I find myself in such a situation, I ask the boss if he is willing to compromise. And more than once he's said no and I've walked. Hard times or not, I will no longer work for Stalinistic employers - I can find some other way to make enough money to get by.
>
>And no, I don't count time spent on this board as personal, because this is a forum where I get useful information on professional matters.
>
>
>--- On Mon, 7/21/08, Cardimon, Craig <ccardimon -at- M-S-G -dot- com> wrote:
>
> > Sadly, this does involve company assets. This involves
> > company time.
> > Companies are usually fairly flexible about this, but it
> > should still be
> > acknowledged. I am not a manager but I know how they think.
> > From 8 - 5
> > or whenever, you're on company time. There was a
> > discussion on another
> > list about this. People wanted to do creative writing --
> > hopefully on
> > their lunch hour -- and didn't know how to do this
> > without involving
> > company assets. The consensus seemed to be to use a USB
> > stick. Okay,
> > fine. Then a real live manager chimed in, saying that, if
> > you do
> > anything but your job on company time, then -- technically
> > speaking --
> > you are stealing from him, and that's called theft.
> > I'm just saying.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:20:25 -0700
> From: Ned Bedinger <doc -at- edwordsmith -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Workplace issues
>To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Message-ID: <4884B749 -dot- 3070505 -at- edwordsmith -dot- com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Cardimon, Craig wrote:
> >> if I connect to the Internet from my
> >> personal laptop, that goes through the same structure
> >> as my cell phone uses and does not involve company
> >> assets in any way.
>
>I don't agree that work is work and personal is personal, and ne'er the
>twain etc. Personal communication is anything BUT forbidden in my 21st
>century workplace--my boss and I have established detente about this. We
>both recognize that our jobs demand flexibility, and that we both are
>happier if we allow the other to shape work according to the fair rules
>of give and take.
>
>Note that I'm not talking about tit for tat, where boss asks me to make
>personal sacrifice (20 hrs overtime, for example) and I then take back
>an equal measure of personal time while at work when things are slow.
>
>What I expect is NOT to work like the bean counter's bitch. In my
>sensible, ethical working world, no one keeps track of the minutes and
>tenths of an hour spent on assignments versus personal stuff.
>
>So yeah, I will make phone calls or check webmail at work. Of course,
>that means my employer can sniff and snoop my personal traffic, steal my
>hotmail password and spam my correspondents, but I generally don't worry
>about that much. I'm not sure I'd even notice if the network admins are
>actively using my hotmail alongside me!
>
>Ned Bedinger
>doc -at- edwordsmith -dot- com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:19:09 -0700
> From: "Gene Kim-Eng" <techwr -at- genek -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Workplace issues
>To: <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID: <AE794CDB573145B788A9ADDA492606C0 -at- genekoptx2>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>The root of most workplace rules about hours worked
>and time spent net surfing by professional (i.e., exempt)
>employees is usually:
>
>a) Hourly (i.e., nonexempt) employees see exempts
> coming and going at odd hours and spending time
> surfing eBay and the result is employee discontent.
>
>b) If someone takes offense at what an employee is
> surfing to on the business premises, the result is
> "hostile workplace" filings.
>
>As long as you get your work done on schedule and
>to spec, most managers would just rather not know
>what else you're doing on company premises and
>time as long as nobody else is complaining to them
>about it.or you.
>
>Gene Kim-Eng
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Hood" <klhra -at- yahoo -dot- com>
> > In my opinion I have a really simple rule about situations like this: I won't
> > work for someone who has a bug up his *** about the hours I work. That doesn't
> > mean I refuse to conform to company schedules. If the boss insists that I must
> > be at my desk by 8 AM, I'm there. If he insists I can't leave before 5, I
> > stay. But even so, I won't put up with the kind of employer who tries to turn
> > me into a robot who does nothing but grind a keyboard all day long.
> >
> > In the past, more than once I've taken a job and then found out the employer
> > insists that every minute I spend inside the building must be spent on company
> > matters. I mean, I've found bosses who would break up conversations in the
> > halls and would cruise the cube farm looking for people who were in somebody
> > else's cube talking about things not related to work. I won't work in such
> > places. If I find myself in such a situation, I ask the boss if he is willing
> > to compromise. And more than once he's said no and I've walked. Hard times or
> > not, I will no longer work for Stalinistic employers - I can find some other
> > way to make enough money to get by.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:22:07 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net
>Subject: Setting up acronyms
>To: TECHWR <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID:
> <1565649067 -dot- 454121216660927231 -dot- JavaMail -dot- root -at- sz0003b -dot- westchester -dot- pa -dot- mail -dot- comcast -dot- net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>Silly one here..
>
>It seems to me that it is incorrect to capitalize acronym set-ups just because they are acronyms.
>
>
>For instance: general arrangement (GA) seems correct, while General Arrangement (GA) does not.
>
>I see engineers using capitalization to designate things as significant all the time (for instance, the Control System operates the yada-yada). To me, the desire to cap acronym set-ups is just more of the same.
>
>On the other hand, if the set-up is for a proper noun, Geographic Information Service (GIS) I can see the propriety of capitalizing it.
>
>Can I get a reality check here? I don't have a style guide handy so I checked Chicago Online and it seems to support my point of view:
>
>
>
>Q. When you have an initialism, do you cap the first letter of each word when the phrase is completely spelled out?
>
>A. In the spelled-out version, simply cap as you would if an initialism did not exist: standard operating procedures (SOPs), Rhode Island (RI), American Journal of Education ( AJE ), Mothers against Preschoolers (MAP).
>
>Any pointers on how I can persuade folks to adopt the usage I'm favoring?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:33:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: john -at- garisons -dot- com
>Subject: Image repository
>Cc: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Message-ID: <39416 -dot- 216 -dot- 107 -dot- 194 -dot- 166 -dot- 1216661615 -dot- squirrel -at- garisons -dot- com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Hi All,
>
>I'm in a new position and I've been given the hot potato of coming up with
>a way to manage the images that are used in documents and specs.
>
>People create images in a variety of ways - PowerPoint (!) being the
>primary tool - and are then converted to WMF and included in documents
>using references (rather than embedding them).
>
>So ... what do you recommend to:
>
> - number or otherwise identify graphics?
>
> - control look & feel issues - color, size, line style & weight, etc.?
>
> - associate final format with original version?
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>John G
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:52:01 -0400 (EDT)
> From: cupton -at- syclone -dot- net
>Subject: Re: Setting up acronyms
>To: jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net
>Cc: TECHWR <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID:
> <64855 -dot- 216 -dot- 46 -dot- 98 -dot- 249 -dot- 1216662721 -dot- squirrel -at- webmail -dot- syclone -dot- net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>I used to tell people that they were using ayran capitalization, and I
>thought I was referring to German, since they capitalize nouns. It did not
>occur to me that ayran has a very different meaning. I do think some
>people enjoy promoting common nouns, and would rather captialize all of
>them rather than miss one. It's the same people who used to use all caps
>until we told them to stop shouting.
>
>Carolyn
>
> > Silly one here..
> >
> > It seems to me that it is incorrect to capitalize acronym set-ups just
> > because they are acronyms.
> >
> >
> > For instance: general arrangement (GA) seems correct, while General
> > Arrangement (GA) does not.
> >
> > I see engineers using capitalization to designate things as significant
> > all the time (for instance, the Control System operates the yada-yada). To
> > me, the desire to cap acronym set-ups is just more of the same.
> >
> > On the other hand, if the set-up is for a proper noun, Geographic
> > Information Service (GIS) I can see the propriety of capitalizing it.
> >
> > Can I get a reality check here? I don't have a style guide handy so I
> > checked Chicago Online and it seems to support my point of view:
> >
> >
> >
> > Q. When you have an initialism, do you cap the first letter of each word
> > when the phrase is completely spelled out?
> >
> > A. In the spelled-out version, simply cap as you would if an initialism
> > did not exist: standard operating procedures (SOPs), Rhode Island (RI),
> > American Journal of Education ( AJE ), Mothers against Preschoolers (MAP).
> >
> > Any pointers on how I can persuade folks to adopt the usage I'm favoring?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Create HTML or Microsoft Word content and convert to Help file formats or
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>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:59:44 -0400
> From: jlshaeffer -at- aol -dot- com
>Subject: Re: Setting up acronyms
>To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Message-ID: <8CAB972B0A1EA11-154C-10A2 -at- Webmail-mg07 -dot- sim -dot- aol -dot- com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> Sorry, if I see a lower case word in the middle of an acronym set-up, I assume it means that the lower case word was left out of the acronym. (FBI: Federal Bureau of Investigation, for example)
>
>
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
> From: jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net
>To: TECHWR <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 1:22 pm
>Subject: Setting up acronyms
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Silly one here..
>
>It seems to me that it is incorrect to capitalize acronym set-ups just because
>they are acronyms.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:03:44 -0400
> From: "Dan Goldstein" <DGoldstein -at- riverainmedical -dot- com>
>Subject: RE: Setting up acronyms
>To: <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
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>But then, why FOIA (Freedom of Information Act)?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jlshaeffer
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:00 PM
> > To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> > Subject: Re: Setting up acronyms
> >
> > Sorry, if I see a lower case word in the middle of an
> > acronym set-up, I assume it means that the lower case
> > word was left out of the acronym. (FBI: Federal
> > Bureau of Investigation, for example)
> >
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>Message: 12
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:39:08 -0600
> From: Laura Praderio Lynn <lpraderio -at- alpineclimbs -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Image repository
>To: john -at- garisons -dot- com
>Cc: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
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>hi john,
>
>i like to use subversion as a document repository.
>-you can store binary and diff images.
>-you can also have version control and history (changes) for each version.
>-you can branch and tag the images as a way to manage their use.
>
>if you keep subversion on one system, you can reference documents
>without embedding them; the user would need permissions-so that might
>not work-you may need to bundle the graphic with the document. also, if
>you aren't familiar with it, then you may need a sys admin to set it up
>for you.
>
>to control look and feel maybe you need a publications guide and a brown
>bag lunch seminar to define the corporate standards for graphics.
>
>cheers,
>laura
>
>john -at- garisons -dot- com wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm in a new position and I've been given the hot potato of coming up with
> > a way to manage the images that are used in documents and specs.
> >
> > People create images in a variety of ways - PowerPoint (!) being the
> > primary tool - and are then converted to WMF and included in documents
> > using references (rather than embedding them).
> >
> > So ... what do you recommend to:
> >
> > - number or otherwise identify graphics?
> >
> > - control look & feel issues - color, size, line style & weight, etc.?
> >
> > - associate final format with original version?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John G
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>Message: 13
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:51 -0400
> From: "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat -at- granatedit -dot- com>
>Subject: RE: Workplace issues
>To: <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID: <009001c8eb61$72919e00$2f01a8c0 -at- GranatEditOne>
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>Craig Cardimon wrote:
>
> > People wanted to do creative writing -- hopefully on their
> > lunch hour -- and didn't know how to do this without
> > involving company assets. The consensus seemed to be to use a
> > USB stick. Okay, fine. Then a real live manager chimed in,
> > saying that, if you do anything but your job on company time,
> > then -- technically speaking -- you are stealing from him,
> > and that's called theft. I'm just saying.
>
>Lunch time is your time, not company time.
>
>Bonnie Granat
>http://www.GranatEdit.com
>
>
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>Message: 14
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:45:57 -0400
> From: "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat -at- granatedit -dot- com>
>Subject: RE: Setting up acronyms
>To: "'TECHWR'" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > techwr-l-bounces+bgranat=granatedit -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> > [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+bgranat=granatedit -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l
> > .com] On Behalf Of jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 1:22 PM
> > To: TECHWR
> > Subject: Setting up acronyms
> >
> > Silly one here..
> >
> > It seems to me that it is incorrect to capitalize acronym
> > set-ups just because they are acronyms.
> >
> >
> > For instance: general arrangement (GA) seems correct, while
> > General Arrangement (GA) does not.
> >
>
>You're right.
>
>
>Bonnie Granat
>http://www.GranatEdit.com
>
>
>
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>Message: 15
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:18:52 -0500
> From: "Janet Swisher" <jmswisher -at- gmail -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Setting up acronyms
>To: "jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net" <jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net>
>Cc: TECHWR <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
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>On 7/21/08, jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net <jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net> wrote:
> > Silly one here..
> >
> > It seems to me that it is incorrect to capitalize acronym set-ups just because they are acronyms.
> >
> >
> > For instance: general arrangement (GA) seems correct, while General Arrangement (GA) does not.
> >
> > I see engineers using capitalization to designate things as significant all the time (for instance, the Control System operates the yada-yada). To me, the desire to cap acronym set-ups is just more of the same.
> >
> > On the other hand, if the set-up is for a proper noun, Geographic Information Service (GIS) I can see the propriety of capitalizing it.
> >
> > Can I get a reality check here? I don't have a style guide handy so I checked Chicago Online and it seems to support my point of view:
> >
> >
> >
> > Q. When you have an initialism, do you cap the first letter of each word when the phrase is completely spelled out?
> >
> > A. In the spelled-out version, simply cap as you would if an initialism did not exist: standard operating procedures (SOPs), Rhode Island (RI), American Journal of Education ( AJE ), Mothers against Preschoolers (MAP).
> >
> > Any pointers on how I can persuade folks to adopt the usage I'm favoring?
>
>I agree with you and CMOS on the particulars, but this is
>fundamentally an interpersonal question, not a writing style question.
>How do you get other people to adopt any style rule?
>
>In general, start by putting the rule in your in-house style guide
>(you do have one, don't you?), with a reference to the CMOS Online
>page. Then edit everything that passes through your hands to conform
>to the style guide. Explain to all your authors why you are making
>these changes, and refer them to the style guide.
>
>I think you are likely to fight a losing battle over this particular
>rule, given the more general trend you noted of over-capitalizing, to
>which both engineers and marketers seem prone. (Lyn Dupre calls this
>the "Pooh-Bear" style of capitalization, "in which Everything takes on
>Great Importance", after its use in the works of A.A. Milne.) You
>might choose to wage a wider campaign against Pooh-Bearisms. Or you
>might decide to pick a different battle, one where there is greater
>inconsistency, or where a usage substantially interferes with clear
>communication.
>
>
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>Message: 16
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:21:14 -0400
> From: "McLauchlan, Kevin" <Kevin -dot- McLauchlan -at- safenet-inc -dot- com>
>Subject: RE: Workplace issues (was RE: side-effect of tabbed browsing
>To: <klhra -at- yahoo -dot- com>, <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID:
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > On Behalf Of Keith Hood
> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:54
> > I take my personal laptop to work with me. For doing anything for the
> > company, I use the company laptop that it hardwired to their net. For
> > doing anything personal, even something as mild as checking my email,
>I
> > use my laptop, which has a Sprint wireless modem. So if I connect to
>the
> > Internet from my personal laptop, that goes through the same structure
>as
> > my cell phone uses and does not involve company assets in any way. So
>even
> > if I do accidentally get something nasty installed on my laptop,
>there's
> > no way to pass it to the company.
>
>In Canada, that _might_ be an option, depending upon how rich you
>were... but then you wouldn't be in an employee situation. :-)
>
>I understand that US cellular providers have progressed to the point
>where your basic connection gives you either large amounts of browsing
>and messaging minutes, or unlimited.
>
>Here (Canada) where there's lots less competition, only those with large
>bank accounts, or those who still live with their Moms (i.e., have no
>living expenses) can afford to actually _use_ the new 3G iPhone (only
>one carrier has the network to handle that speed/volume of data
>traffic), so they can charge what they please. Others have signed up
>for contracts (any phone) that appeared to offer "unlimited" minutes and
>then... um... didn't. I mentioned in another post some recent newspaper
>stories of people being shocked to get multi-thousand-dollar cell-phone
>bills for trusting (and not reading the fine print) and then basically
>using their phones as they would a PC for browsing, streaming,
>downloading, social-networking, etc. Some of them simply couldn't
>believe that the first bill was real/serious and continued their usage
>until the second-month bill arrived (that was the $20,000+) and they
>woke up. Those are extreme cases, but even a bill of several hundreds
>of dollars, when you'd budgeted for less than 100, is an eye-opener.
>That's more than I'm paying to re-do my kitchen...
>
>A major carrier here announced that it is starting to charge users for
>IMs and other text messages INCOMING, including spam and including their
>OWN SPAM... the advertising crap that they send you regarding their own
>"services" and specials. Yes, they partially relented and allowed that
>you could apply to have spam messages dropped from your bill, but their
>policy is to make it so onerous that you'll just let it ride. "Yes sir,
>you can certainly get those 310 spam messages removed from your phone
>bill - just fill out this form. What's that sir? Why yes, it is quite
>easy. It had better be; did I mention that you'll need to do it 310
>times? And it's an online web-form and we've disabled cut'n'paste.
>Whoops! Make that 311 there's another spam just arrived. You be sure to
>have a _nice_ day, sir!"
>
>There's a groundswell of resentment and outcry, but most Canadian users
>are locked into multi-year plans. You _can_ use pay-as-you-go, but the
>per-minute and per-message rates are much higher than (the
>already-higher-than-you-Americans-pay) rates if you have a plan.
>
>As a general rule, phones are not unlocked here (I think it's not
>exactly illegal, but providers are pressing to have that changed, too).
>Also, IIRC, there's only one true GSM provider. There's little use of
>the portability of phone numbers. You can take your GSM card and... and
>... put it right back into a phone from the same provider - won't work
>with the other major telecomms companies' networks, because they don't
>offer GSM phones. Yes, you can keep your number, but all your other
>stuff stays behind when you move - like those dozens of ring-tones that
>you paid for, phone apps/plug-ins, etc. Anybody who buys a multi-band
>phone is doing so because they figure to travel internationally with it,
>not to use with different providers in-country.
>
>Anyway, I wasn't asking all those questions on my own behalf. I don't
>have a laptop or phone that I could use for browsing and other data
>stuff at my employer's location. :-)
>
>But my real point was that there are all kinds of issues and questions
>about what's right, wrong, offensive, career-limiting, etc., that seem
>to be mystifying or invisible to many new and young workers. They're
>ever so proud of how they are natural citizens of the digital world,
>unlike us old duffers who are uncomfortable or piecemeal in our
>adoption, but they seem to lack clues about etiquette and propriety and,
>to some extent, ethics. Guidance in those areas appears spotty (though I
>may have overlooked a horde of treasures, since I didn't look very
>hard... but then neither have many of the new kids).
>
>Kevin
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>Message: 17
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:35:39 -0400
> From: "Bonnie Granat" <bgranat -at- granatedit -dot- com>
>Subject: RE: Setting up acronyms
>To: "'TECHWR'" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID: <009a01c8eb68$f672bd60$2f01a8c0 -at- GranatEditOne>
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>
> > Any pointers on how I can persuade folks to adopt the usage
> > I'm favoring?
> >
>
>Someone must be delegated the authority by the department manager to
>establish editorial style.
>
>
>Bonnie Granat
>http://www.GranatEdit.com
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 18
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:03:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Keith Hood <klhra -at- yahoo -dot- com>
>Subject: Re: Image repository
>To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
>Message-ID: <594173 -dot- 74400 -dot- qm -at- web36303 -dot- mail -dot- mud -dot- yahoo -dot- com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Could you give us more information on the load? How many images, how large do they average, etc. How often are they changed?. (Since you use WMF, I assume the target documents are in Word.) Also, do you have tight limits on the storage space?
>
>
>
>--- On Mon, 7/21/08, john -at- garisons -dot- com <john -at- garisons -dot- com> wrote:
>
> > From: john -at- garisons -dot- com <john -at- garisons -dot- com>
> > Subject: Image repository
> > To:
> > Cc: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:33 PM
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm in a new position and I've been given the hot
> > potato of coming up with
> > a way to manage the images that are used in documents and
> > specs.
> >
> > People create images in a variety of ways - PowerPoint (!)
> > being the
> > primary tool - and are then converted to WMF and included
> > in documents
> > using references (rather than embedding them).
> >
> > So ... what do you recommend to:
> >
> > - number or otherwise identify graphics?
> >
> > - control look & feel issues - color, size, line style
> > & weight, etc.?
> >
> > - associate final format with original version?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John G
> >
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>Message: 19
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:27:53 -0500
> From: quills -at- airmail -dot- net
>Subject: Re: Workplace issues
>To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
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>I really find all this rather humorous, in a gallows humor sort of way.
>
>I will give value for what I am hired to do. However, expecting 100%
>use of your time on the job from 8-5 is most unrealistic. No one, not
>even CEOs devote all of their time to the company during a day. You
>are paid for your time, and to accomplish a job. That is all. The
>concept that they own all of your time is ludicrous.
>
>Bathroom breaks? Breaks for rest? Clear your mind? Avoid repetitive
>stress injuries?
>
>Let us get real. Any manager who insists upon 100% all the time with
>no personal business occurring is not only unreasonable, they are not
>close to being a leader, and what is worse, they probably are not
>effective as a manager in the first place.
>
>I have a life. And if a company cannot accept that, I won't work for
>them. Good luck to them, because they will need it. I'll probably
>avoid their product as well.
>
>
>
>
>At 9:33 AM -0400 7/21/08, Cardimon, Craig wrote:
> > > I take my personal laptop to work with me. For doing anything for the
> >> company, I use the company laptop that it hardwired to their net. For
> >> doing anything personal, even something as mild as checking my email,
> >I
> >> use my laptop, which has a Sprint wireless modem. So if I connect to
> >the
> >> Internet from my personal laptop, that goes through the same structure
> >as
> >> my cell phone uses and does not involve company assets in any way. So
> >even
> >> if I do accidentally get something nasty installed on my laptop,
> >there's
> >> no way to pass it to the company.
> >
> >Sadly, this does involve company assets. This involves company time.
> >Companies are usually fairly flexible about this, but it should still be
> >acknowledged. I am not a manager but I know how they think. From 8 - 5
> >or whenever, you're on company time. There was a discussion on another
> >list about this. People wanted to do creative writing -- hopefully on
> >their lunch hour -- and didn't know how to do this without involving
> >company assets. The consensus seemed to be to use a USB stick. Okay,
> >fine. Then a real live manager chimed in, saying that, if you do
> >anything but your job on company time, then -- technically speaking --
> >you are stealing from him, and that's called theft. I'm just saying.
> >
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 20
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:55:47 -0500
> From: "Karen Murri" <kmurri -at- comcast -dot- net>
>Subject: RE: Setting up acronyms
>To: "'Janet Swisher'" <jmswisher -at- gmail -dot- com>, <jopakent -at- comcast -dot- net>
>Cc: 'TECHWR' <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Message-ID: <20080721235416 -dot- 0C7D68C62F -at- web -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
>Keywords: Techwr-l
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I attended a seminar where the presenters called it capitalization Tourette
>syndrome. The Pooh-Bear style works for me, too.
>
>-Karen
>
>-----Original Message-----
> From: Janet Swisher
>
>I think you are likely to fight a losing battle over this particular rule,
>given the more general trend you noted of over-capitalizing, to which both
>engineers and marketers seem prone. (Lyn Dupre calls this the "Pooh-Bear"
>style of capitalization, "in which Everything takes on Great Importance",
>after its use in the works of A.A. Milne.) You might choose to wage a wider
>campaign against Pooh-Bearisms. Or you might decide to pick a different
>battle, one where there is greater inconsistency, or where a usage
>substantially interferes with clear communication.
>
>
>
>
>
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