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Subject:SUMMARY: CD Production Advice From:ckime <ckime -at- PEERLOGIC -dot- COM> Date:Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:01:24 -0700
Earlier in the week I requested ideas, tips, or research pointers for
producing low volumes of professional-looking, CD-ROMs. That's a big
request, but many TECWR-Lrs came through to share their experiences and
information. A Texas-sized (that means huge) thanks to the many folks
who responded: Amy Lattof, Arlen Walker, Beth Agnew, Beth Friedman,
Brad Creager, Liz Schulz, Marge Packman, Matt Ion, Mike Donaghue,
Nanette Luoma Andrusiak, Reid Rogers, Richard Rogers, Rita Johnson,
Stephen Riley, Timothy McNair, Wendy Uren, and Bill Newkirk. An
abundance of info was provided as you can tell from the length of this
"summary"! Please, no flames on the number of bulleted items or
formatting...it's late and this is among friends, right? ;)
The major approaches seem to be:
o Buy equipment to print image, burn contents, and/or duplicate
in-house. (Cost about $70-$20,000 for equipment depending on
combinations)
o Have vendor silk-screen image on blank RCDs and then burn contents
in-house as needed. Possibly do "generic" silk screen and have
in-house printer to add product/version-specific info.
o Have vendor silk-screen image and burn contents. (Minimum seems to
be about 250 quantity and around $700 for this approach.)
Here's more detail from the responses I received:
o The graphic is burned on the top and the data on the bottom, so you
can silk-screen the graphic and burn the contents separately and the
order doesn't matter. This could help get economy of scale if the
graphic can be fairly generic (perhaps adding a label or using the
RIMAGE CD printer for specific info), such as to serve for multiple
products and/or multiple releases. With this scenario could send out
for quantity silk-screening and then burn in-house as needed.
o For in-house printing of an image on CD, there seem to be two
printers currently available:
- Signature CD Color Printer by Fargo Electronics (www.fargo.com;
1-800-205-5852) for about $1500, with cartidges about $52 (prints
about 200 CDs). Requires textured CDs. Fargo supplies white textured
CDs that make the image dry evenly, smear proof, and waterproof. Image
can be printed from their bundled software (not recommended highly),
ADOBE (highly recommended), or other graphic sw packages. It's a full
color ink jet printer, so the images are close to perfect but not
quite. 600x300 dpi. Process takes a couple of minutes per CD and must
be done one at a time.
- RIMAGE CD Printer (www.rimage.com; 1-800-445-8288), about 2x cost
of Fargo's. Uses standard silver media. Sharp image. Burns a single
color ribbon-ink on a CD (looks like silk-screened); limited color
options (extra colors by multi pass with different ribbons; able to do
a multiple of CDs hands free; fast (5-10 sec).
o Potential concerns with the "burn on demand" approach:
- it requires tight version control to ensure that you put exactly
the same software on each of the CDs
- it can take up a lot of someone's time to create the CDs
o Suggested vendors for pre-printing and/or who deal with low
quanties (one responder's price breakdown was about $700 for 75 CDRs
with 3-color silk screen and no data, and about the same for 250 fully
pressed with silk screen and data!):
DataDisc
www.datadisc.com
703-331-220
Will produce full silk-screen art on blank CDs that you can then burn
on demand. Runs as low as 10 CDs. Standard turnaround 4-5 days.
Memory Chips
www.memorychips.com
800-359-6921
Fully pressed. Minimum runs of 250.
American Pro-Digital (APD)
P.O. Box 550
Rooseveltown, NY 13683-0550
800.273.3472
Min order of 3!, For 1-, 2-, or 3-color, setup charge of $200 and
$3.50 per RCD, shrink-wrapped in a jewel case.
D.M. Graphics
613 Congress Park Dr.
Centerville, Ohio 45459
800.316.5175 http://www.dmgcdr5.com/
Corporate Disk Company
1226 Michael Drive
Wood Dale, IL 60191
800.634.3475
American Disc Corporation
800.840.DISC
Europadisk, Ltd.
75 Varick St.
New York, NY 10013
800.455.9555
OPTI-MAG, Inc.
800.795.2384
Mid Atlantic Media
P.O. Box 11006
Wilmington, DE 19850
302.325.3613
Software Completions
919-783-8471
Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
about $15.00 service charge and $2.00/CD to print image
o The pre-printing route has the same limitations as for manufactured
CDs: min line width of .5pt, min letter size of 4pt, max line screen
of 1001pi--85 recommended, etc.
o Additional justification of a CD burner is to use it for archiving
data on a regular basis (this organization previously archived to
tape, which was difficult to retrieve at the desktop).
o For very small quantities (35-50), consider buying a duplicating
machine for $4,000-20,000.
o The silver CDs aren't built for short run stamping.
o The upcoming DVD machines may not be able to read CD-Rs; should be
backward compatible but currently no machines available to know for sure.
o Comments about the stick-on label approach:
- Can get a CD Stomper for about $70.
- Look tacky unless you do 4-color.
- Requires the gold disks or white textured disks.
- Stick on labels can upset the balance and spin of the CD.
- Paper labels eventually crinkle and bubble.
- Can come off of gold surface CDs; TDK CDs with white blob on top
have been successful.
We are still conducting our feasibility study. If there are any
exciting discoveries not mentioned in the above responses, I'll let
the list know.
Best regards,
Carol Kime
PeerLogic, Inc.
Austin, Texas
ckime -at- peerlogic -dot- com
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