Re: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day

[Penn Brumm <penn -at- HEALTHEON -dot- COM>]

I disagree with this example.  There is a wide difference between children and
adults...or should be.  In many cases, the same rules simply do not apply; such
as: equality under the law, equality in credit, equal access to medical care,
equal access to retirement benefits, etc. These are not the same as warning
children against strangers.

Penn

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Andrea Ridgley wrote:

> I fail to see precaution as discrimination.   When your children walk to
> school, don't you tell them not to talk to strangers for the sake of
> their own safety?  If so, you are now discriminative.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:  Hope Cascio [SMTP:hope -dot- d -dot- cascio -at- US -dot- ARTHURANDERSEN -dot- COM]
> >Sent:  Tuesday, April 28, 1998 3:23 PM
> >To:    TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU
> >Subject:       Re: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
> >
> >His "precaution" is still discriminatory.  What if he'd been sued in the
> >past because a Gentile employee assaulted a Jewish employee, and now, as a
> >"precaution," he segregated his employees in this way?  I don't agree with
> >frivolous lawsuits, I'm sorry he was the victim of one, but that does not
> >give him license to hurt his employees professionally to protect himself
> >from further litigation.  In Phyllis' position, I would certainly call out
> >the EEO.
> >
> >Hope Cascio
> >
> >___________________________________________________________________________
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >
> >To:     Hope D. Cascio, TECHWR-L @ LISTSERV.OKSTATE.EDU
> >cc:
> >From:   ridgley -at- omtool -dot- com
> >Date:   04/28/98 03:22 PM
> >Subject:  RE: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
> >___________________________________________________________________________
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I wouldn't be so quick to alert the EEO!  As Phyllis mentioned "HE (the
> >pres is male) does live his life very carefully because
> >of previous frivolous lawsuits in previous companies (not against him)."
> >What if the Pres is actually and sincerely concerned about the welfare
> >of female employees in the midst of male employees? (It could happen.) I
> >believe in learning from other people's experiences and taking the
> >necessary precautions instead of saying "it can't happen to me."
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From:    Hope Cascio [SMTP:hope -dot- d -dot- cascio -at- US -dot- ARTHURANDERSEN -dot- COM]
> >>Sent:    Tuesday, April 28, 1998 2:29 PM
> >>To: TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU
> >>Subject: Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
> >>
> >>This is sex discrimination, because the president is affecting how you do
> >>your work based on your gender. I would tell the president that the
> >current
> >>policy prevents you from doing you work to the best of your ability (as it
> >>does) and that if the policy is not rescinded, you'll take it to the EEO
> >>(or equivalent government office protecting against discrimination in the
> >>workplace.)
> >>Hope Cascio
> >>
> >>__________________________________________________________________________
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> >>_________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>To:     TECHWR-L @ LISTSERV.OKSTATE.EDU
> >>cc:      (bcc: Hope D. Cascio)
> >>From:   PPalmer -at- SPHERECOM -dot- COM
> >>Date:   04/28/98 01:34 PM
> >>Subject:  Propriety: New Twist on Professionalism & Secretaries Day
> >>__________________________________________________________________________
> >_
> >>_________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Here's my question for you wise folks:
> >>Scenario:  I need to go to several beta sites and new installations for
> >>training issues and installation documentation development.  The
> >>'president' of our small company is adamant against males and females
> >>traveling together (large group going to same site, only one female;
> >>getting a ride to the airport with colleague, etc.) even for a working
> >>lunch.  I say I can't live like that.  I need the information from the
> >>site and I need to be with the developers as they analyze what's going
> >>on...
> >>What do you do?
> >>Thanks for your discussion of this topic.
> >>Phyllis
> >~
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> >~
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