Re: Desperately seeking employment...

[Donald Le Vie <dlevie -at- VLINE -dot- NET>]

I find that lying about your experience will catch up with you. Being
brutally honest will keep you in the unemployment line. I would venture to
say that all of us have hyped ("slightly oversold") some aspect of our
skills/knowledge/experience on a resume to one degree or another, but to
outright falsify one's background contradicts some moral and ethical code of
conduct.

Andy, I find your suggestion to lie most ironic give your last name
(Plato)....; )

Donn Le Vie
Integrated Concepts

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Plato [SMTP:intrepid_es -at- YAHOO -dot- COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 6:39 PM
> To:   TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU
> Subject:      Re: Desperately seeking employment...
>
> Have you tried lying?
>
> Seriously.  What are they going to do? Take away your birthday.  Just
> start
> lying on your resume.  Go for entry level or lower end jobs. Ones that
> want 1 -
> 3 years experience. Then when you get the job, work you're butt off to
> make
> sure they don't see you're lying.  You can always claim 1 year experience.
> Heck, you went to school right - that counts for something.  That and your
> internship - sounds like a year of experience to me.
>
> If you feel morally bothered about lying, just think how morally
> bothersome
> poverty feels.  A little lie to get in the door doesn't seem so bad in
> comparison to poverty and unhappiness.
>
> If you're smart and resourceful, it doesn't matter how many years
> experience
> you have - you'll do okay. Most interviews and resumes are about
> illusions, not
> real productivity.  If you sound good and can follow through on your
> commitments - you'll be fine.
>
> I would not bother with the big agencies and headhunters.  They have rigid
> requirements that all humans must meet.  You might want to stay away from
> really big companies as well.  I also think big companies are a waste.
> They
> have too many rules and regulations that inhibit people from learning new
> things. Big companies are also infested with parasitic writers who
> complain and
> grumble constantly. If you have the misfortune of working with one of
> these
> dinosaurs, they'll sap away your will to live.
>
> Mentoring programs are a great way to meet intolerant egomaniacs who will
> pound
> their singular vision of the universe into your head.  As for volunteer
> work,
> not a bad idea. But let's face it, you need money.
>
> A small company is an ideal place to get started. Many small start-ups are
> willing to give an entry level person a chance if you sell yourself well.
> You
> might have to take a lame salary (ask for stock!), but you have so many
> more
> opportunities to learn new things.  If you can make it at a small company,
> you
> can make it anywhere.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Andrew Plato
> President / Principal Consultant
> Anitian Consulting, Inc.
>
>
> --- Beth Davy <bethdavy -at- CANADA -dot- COM> wrote:
> > hi,
> > i am going through the exciting process that is job-searching, but here
> > is
> > my prob:
> > i just graduated with a BA in english and worked last summer at a
> > software
> > company doing some tech writing and online help (robohelp) but that is
> > really only 4 months experience.
>
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